An exerpt from the Patti Smith interview I shared the other day on loss and a painting of mine on the same subject..... PAUL
HOLDENGRÄBER: And, you
know, how important it was to arrive at the greatest amount of silence a city
could arrive at. We were talking about loss, and there’s a line, as we slowly
wind down, there’s a line in Rilke that I very much love about loss, where he
says, “Loss however cruel is powerless against possession, which it completes
or even affirms. Loss is in fact nothing else than a second acquisition but now
completely interiorized and just as intense.”
PATTI
SMITH: Rilke.
PAUL
HOLDENGRÄBER: It’s
extraordinary, no?
PATTI
SMITH: I’m not going to
say awesome, because it’s not an awesome enough word. But yes, he’s so
beautiful.
PAUL
HOLDENGRÄBER: “A second
form of acquisition.”
PATTI
SMITH: Yes, I believe in
that. I know it to be true.
PAUL
HOLDENGRÄBER: We carry
around our libraries. We carry around our quotations. I think I mean in many
ways the reason that M Train moves me so deeply is in part
because you are inhabited by words, you are inhabited by sentences, you are
inhabited by certain moments, and I think, you know, as I think of it I think
of literature of having the highest—and Herzog speaks about—Werner Herzog
speaks about literature offering him always consolation in the toughest,
hardest moments. He reads, you know, he reads the great Greek writers because they
will—Thucydides, he will offer him in some form or fashion consolation, when
things really get rough we turn to what really matters. When Montaigne lost his
son he couldn’t tell his wife that his son had died. Instead he wrote down the
letter that Plutarch had written when he lost his son, and he copied it out and
sent it to his wife. That was a way in some way of expressing emotion.
Recently—I feel like I must say that
because our conversation is inhabited by this. I lost my sister on September 1,
and it’s a terrible thing to have to lose one’s sister. It’s even worse in some
way to have to tell one’s ninety-seven-year-old father of that loss. After that
moment, which was so difficult, literature came back. Not to rescue me, because
there is no rescuing and consolation not to flatten the experience, but I
thought of a writer who matters to you too so much and I thought of those last
lines of The Unnamable, “I can’t go
on, I will go on.” And thankfully we have memory and we remember, literally
putting our members back together because if we didn’t we might be truly more
lost than we already are. Anyway I’m sorry, that was a long moment.
PATTI
SMITH: No, it’s lovely
to hear you speak. And I think there’s another aspect. We can talk about loss
and we can think about our people and we carry our people and can access our
people but also even getting down to things even more simply, each person has a
life, and our lifes are precious and no matter what we go through in life, what
we lose, who we lose, the strifes, the illnesses, and anything, the sorrows,
the heartbreaks, we still have our—if we have our life we have the best thing
that we’ll ever have and in that way I would quote another great poet, Jimi
Hendrix, who said, “Hooray, I wake from yesterday,” and every day when I wake
up that’s one of the first lines that comes in my head, I think it’s just “Yes,
I have another day, you know, I have another day and whatever comes my way I’m
going to be grateful.” I’m going to be grateful, because we don’t have a long
time and sometimes some people have longer and some people have shorter, but
whatever our fate is we have a little time on this planet and it’s just fantastic
to be alive, just.
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